due to some ancient injury?
I wasn't sure what to do about even more complex line blocks::
| Indented
| Not indented
| Indented a bit
| A bit more
| Only one space
How should that be parsed and nested? Should the first line have
the same nesting level (== indentation in the output) as the fourth
line, or the same as the last line? Mark Nodine suggested that such
line blocks be parsed similarly to complexly-nested block quotes,
which seems reasonable. In the example above, this would result in
the nesting of first line matching the last line's nesting. In
other words, the nesting would be relative to neighboring lines
only.
Output
------
In HTML, line blocks are currently output as "" blocks, which
gives us significant whitespace and line breaks, but doesn't allow
long lines to wrap and causes monospaced output without stylesheets.
Instead, we could output "" elements parallelling the
representation above, where each nested
would
have an increased left margin (specified in the stylesheet).
Jarno suggested the following HTML output::
First, top level line
Second, once nested
Third, once nested
...
...
The ``
`` and ``
`` are meant to support non-CSS and
non-graphical browsers. I understand the case for "br", but I'm not
so sure about hidden " ". I question how much effort should be
put toward supporting non-graphical and especially non-CSS browsers,
at least for html4css1.py output.
Should the lines themselves be ``
`` or ````? I don't like
mixing inline and block-level elements.
Implementation Plan
-------------------
We'll leave the old implementation in place (via the "line-block"
directive only) until all Writers have been updated to support the new
syntax & implementation. The "line-block" directive can then be
updated to use the new internal representation, and its documentation
will be updated to recommend the new syntax.
List-Driven Tables
==================
The original idea came from Dylan Jay:
... to use a two level bulleted list with something to
indicate it should be rendered as a table ...
It's an interesting idea. It could be implemented in as a directive
which transforms a uniform two-level list into a table. Using a
directive would allow the author to explicitly set the table's
orientation (by column or by row), the presence of row headers, etc.
Alternatives:
1. (Implemented in Docutils 0.3.8).
Bullet-list-tables might look like this::
.. list-table::
* - Treat
- Quantity
- Description
* - Albatross!
- 299
- On a stick!
* - Crunchy Frog!
- 1499
- If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy,
now would it?
* - Gannet Ripple!
- 199
- On a stick!
This list must be written in two levels. This wouldn't work::
.. list-table::
* Treat
* Albatross!
* Gannet!
* Crunchy Frog!
* Quantity
* 299
* 199
* 1499
* Description
* On a stick!
* On a stick!
* If we took the bones out...
The above is a single list of 12 items. The blank lines are not
significant to the markup. We'd have to explicitly specify how
many columns or rows to use, which isn't a good idea.
2. Beni Cherniavsky suggested a field list alternative. It could look
like this::
.. field-list-table::
:headrows: 1
- :treat: Treat
:quantity: Quantity
:descr: Description
- :treat: Albatross!
:quantity: 299
:descr: On a stick!
- :treat: Crunchy Frog!
:quantity: 1499
:descr: If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be
crunchy, now would it?
Column order is determined from the order of fields in the first
row. Field order in all other rows is ignored. As a side-effect,
this allows trivial re-arrangement of columns. By using named
fields, it becomes possible to omit fields in some rows without
losing track of things, which is important for spans.
3. An alternative to two-level bullet lists would be to use enumerated
lists for the table cells::
.. list-table::
* 1. Treat
2. Quantity
3. Description
* 1. Albatross!
2. 299
3. On a stick!
* 1. Crunchy Frog!
2. 1499
3. If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy,
now would it?
That provides better correspondence between cells in the same
column than does bullet-list syntax, but not as good as field list
syntax. I think that were only field-list-tables available, a lot
of users would use the equivalent degenerate case::
.. field-list-table::
- :1: Treat
:2: Quantity
:3: Description
...
4. Another natural variant is to allow a description list with field
lists as descriptions::
.. list-table::
:headrows: 1
Treat
:quantity: Quantity
:descr: Description
Albatross!
:quantity: 299
:descr: On a stick!
Crunchy Frog!
:quantity: 1499
:descr: If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be
crunchy, now would it?
This would make the whole first column a header column ("stub").
It's limited to a single column and a single paragraph fitting on
one source line. Also it wouldn't allow for empty cells or row
spans in the first column. But these are limitations that we could
live with, like those of simple tables.
The List-driven table feature could be done in many ways. Each user
will have their preferred usage. Perhaps a single "list-table"
directive could handle them all, depending on which options and
content are present.
Issues:
* How to indicate that there's 1 header row? Perhaps two lists? ::
.. list-table::
+ - Treat
- Quantity
- Description
* - Albatross!
- 299
- On a stick!
This is probably too subtle though. Better would be a directive
option, like ``:headrows: 1``. An early suggestion for the header
row(s) was to use a directive option::
.. field-list-table::
:header:
- :treat: Treat
:quantity: Quantity
:descr: Description
- :treat: Albatross!
:quantity: 299
:descr: On a stick!
But the table data is at two levels and looks inconsistent.
In general, we cannot extract the header row from field lists' field
names because field names cannot contain everything one might put in
a table cell. A separate header row also allows shorter field names
and doesn't force one to rewrite the whole table when the header
text changes. But for simpler cases, we can offer a ":header:
fields" option, which does extract header cells from field names::
.. field-list-table::
:header: fields
- :Treat: Albatross!
:Quantity: 299
:Description: On a stick!
* How to indicate the column widths? A directive option? ::
.. list-table::
:widths: 15 10 35
Automatic defaults from the text used?
* How to handle row and/or column spans?
In a field list, column-spans can be indicated by specifying the
first and last fields, separated by space-dash-space or ellipsis::
- :foo - baz: quuux
- :foo ... baz: quuux
Commas were proposed for column spans::
- :foo, bar: quux
But non-adjacent columns become problematic. Should we report an
error, or duplicate the value into each span of adjacent columns (as
was suggested)? The latter suggestion is appealing but may be too
clever. Best perhaps to simply specify the two ends.
It was suggested that comma syntax should be allowed, too, in order
to allow the user to avoid trouble when changing the column order.
But changing the column order of a table with spans is not trivial;
we shouldn't make it easier to mess up.
One possible syntax for row-spans is to simply treat any row where a
field is missing as a row-span from the last row where it appeared.
Leaving a field empty would still be possible by writing a field
with empty content. But this is too implicit.
Another way would be to require an explicit continuation marker
(``...``/``-"-``/``"``?) in all but the first row of a spanned
field. Empty comments could work (".."). If implemented, the same
marker could also be supported in simple tables, which lack
row-spanning abilities.
Explicit markup like ":rowspan:" and ":colspan:" was also suggested.
Sometimes in a table, the first header row contains spans. It may
be necessary to provide a way to specify the column field names
independently of data rows. A directive option would do it.
* We could specify "column-wise" or "row-wise" ordering, with the same
markup structure. For example, with definition data::
.. list-table::
:column-wise:
Treat
- Albatross!
- Crunchy Frog!
Quantity
- 299
- 1499
Description
- On a stick!
- If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be
crunchy, now would it?
* A syntax for _`stubs in grid tables` is easy to imagine::
+------------------------++------------+----------+
| Header row, column 1 || Header 2 | Header 3 |
+========================++============+==========+
| body row 1, column 1 || column 2 | column 3 |
+------------------------++------------+----------+
Or this idea from Nick Moffitt::
+-----+---+---+
| XOR # T | F |
+=====+===+===+
| T # F | T |
+-----+---+---+
| F # T | F |
+-----+---+---+
Auto-Enumerated Lists
=====================
Implemented 2005-03-24: combination of variation 1 & 2.
The advantage of auto-numbered enumerated lists would be similar to
that of auto-numbered footnotes: lists could be written and rearranged
without having to manually renumber them. The disadvantages are also
the same: input and output wouldn't match exactly; the markup may be
ugly or confusing (depending on which alternative is chosen).
1. Use the "#" symbol. Example::
#. Item 1.
#. Item 2.
#. Item 3.
Advantages: simple, explicit. Disadvantage: enumeration sequence
cannot be specified (limited to arabic numerals); ugly.
2. As a variation on #1, first initialize the enumeration sequence?
For example::
a) Item a.
#) Item b.
#) Item c.
Advantages: simple, explicit, any enumeration sequence possible.
Disadvantages: ugly; perhaps confusing with mixed concrete/abstract
enumerators.
3. Alternative suggested by Fred Bremmer, from experience with MoinMoin::
1. Item 1.
1. Item 2.
1. Item 3.
Advantages: enumeration sequence is explicit (could be multiple
"a." or "(I)" tokens). Disadvantages: perhaps confusing; otherwise
erroneous input (e.g., a duplicate item "1.") would pass silently,
either causing a problem later in the list (if no blank lines
between items) or creating two lists (with blanks).
Take this input for example::
1. Item 1.
1. Unintentional duplicate of item 1.
2. Item 2.
Currently the parser will produce two list, "1" and "1,2" (no
warnings, because of the presence of blank lines). Using Fred's
notation, the current behavior is "1,1,2 -> 1 1,2" (without blank
lines between items, it would be "1,1,2 -> 1 [WARNING] 1,2"). What
should the behavior be with auto-numbering?
Fred has produced a patch__, whose initial behavior is as follows::
1,1,1 -> 1,2,3
1,2,2 -> 1,2,3
3,3,3 -> 3,4,5
1,2,2,3 -> 1,2,3 [WARNING] 3
1,1,2 -> 1,2 [WARNING] 2
(After the "[WARNING]", the "3" would begin a new list.)
I have mixed feelings about adding this functionality to the spec &
parser. It would certainly be useful to some users (myself
included; I often have to renumber lists). Perhaps it's too
clever, asking the parser to guess too much. What if you *do* want
three one-item lists in a row, each beginning with "1."? You'd
have to use empty comments to force breaks. Also, I question
whether "1,2,2 -> 1,2,3" is optimal behavior.
In response, Fred came up with "a stricter and more explicit rule
[which] would be to only auto-number silently if *all* the
enumerators of a list were identical". In that case::
1,1,1 -> 1,2,3
1,2,2 -> 1,2 [WARNING] 2
3,3,3 -> 3,4,5
1,2,2,3 -> 1,2 [WARNING] 2,3
1,1,2 -> 1,2 [WARNING] 2
Should any start-value be allowed ("3,3,3"), or should
auto-numbered lists be limited to begin with ordinal-1 ("1", "A",
"a", "I", or "i")?
__ http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=548802
&group_id=38414&atid=422032
4. Alternative proposed by Tony Ibbs::
#1. First item.
#3. Aha - I edited this in later.
#2. Second item.
The initial proposal required unique enumerators within a list, but
this limits the convenience of a feature of already limited
applicability and convenience. Not a useful requirement; dropped.
Instead, simply prepend a "#" to a standard list enumerator to
indicate auto-enumeration. The numbers (or letters) of the
enumerators themselves are not significant, except:
- as a sequence indicator (arabic, roman, alphabetic; upper/lower),
- and perhaps as a start value (first list item).
Advantages: explicit, any enumeration sequence possible.
Disadvantages: a bit ugly.
Adjacent citation references
============================
A special case for inline markup was proposed and implemented:
multiple citation references could be joined into one::
[cite1]_[cite2]_ instead of requiring [cite1]_ [cite2]_
However, this was rejected as an unwarranted exception to the rules
for inline markup.
(The main motivation for the proposal, grouping citations in the latex writer,
was implemented by recognising the second group in the example above and
transforming it into ``\cite{cite1,cite2}``.)
-----------------
Not Implemented
-----------------
Reworking Footnotes
===================
As a further wrinkle (see `Reworking Explicit Markup (Round 1)`_
above), in the wee hours of 2002-02-28 I posted several ideas for
changes to footnote syntax:
- Change footnote syntax from ``.. [1]`` to ``_[1]``? ...
- Differentiate (with new DTD elements) author-date "citations"
(``[GVR2002]``) from numbered footnotes? ...
- Render footnote references as superscripts without "[]"? ...
These ideas are all related, and suggest changes in the
reStructuredText syntax as well as the docutils tree model.
The footnote has been used for both true footnotes (asides expanding
on points or defining terms) and for citations (references to external
works). Rather than dealing with one amalgam construct, we could
separate the current footnote concept into strict footnotes and
citations. Citations could be interpreted and treated differently
from footnotes. Footnotes would be limited to numerical labels:
manual ("1") and auto-numbered (anonymous "#", named "#label").
The footnote is the only explicit markup construct (starts with ".. ")
that directly translates to a visible body element. I've always been
a little bit uncomfortable with the ".. " marker for footnotes because
of this; ".. " has a connotation of "special", but footnotes aren't
especially "special". Printed texts often put footnotes at the bottom
of the page where the reference occurs (thus "foot note"). Some HTML
designs would leave footnotes to be rendered the same positions where
they're defined. Other online and printed designs will gather
footnotes into a section near the end of the document, converting them
to "endnotes" (perhaps using a directive in our case); but this
"special processing" is not an intrinsic property of the footnote
itself, but a decision made by the document author or processing
system.
Citations are almost invariably collected in a section at the end of a
document or section. Citations "disappear" from where they are
defined and are magically reinserted at some well-defined point.
There's more of a connection to the "special" connotation of the ".. "
syntax. The point at which the list of citations is inserted could be
defined manually by a directive (e.g., ".. citations::"), and/or have
default behavior (e.g., a section automatically inserted at the end of
the document) that might be influenced by options to the Writer.
Syntax proposals:
+ Footnotes:
- Current syntax::
.. [1] Footnote 1
.. [#] Auto-numbered footnote.
.. [#label] Auto-labeled footnote.
- The syntax proposed in the original 2002-02-28 Doc-SIG post:
remove the ".. ", prefix a "_"::
_[1] Footnote 1
_[#] Auto-numbered footnote.
_[#label] Auto-labeled footnote.
The leading underscore syntax (earlier dropped because
``.. _[1]:`` was too verbose) is a useful reminder that footnotes
are hyperlink targets.
- Minimal syntax: remove the ".. [" and "]", prefix a "_", and
suffix a "."::
_1. Footnote 1.
_#. Auto-numbered footnote.
_#label. Auto-labeled footnote.
``_1.``, ``_#.``, and ``_#label.`` are markers,
like list markers.
Footnotes could be rendered something like this in HTML
| 1. This is a footnote. The brackets could be dropped
| from the label, and a vertical bar could set them
| off from the rest of the document in the HTML.
Two-way hyperlinks on the footnote marker ("1." above) would also
help to differentiate footnotes from enumerated lists.
If converted to endnotes (by a directive/transform), a horizontal
half-line might be used instead. Page-oriented output formats
would typically use the horizontal line for true footnotes.
+ Footnote references:
- Current syntax::
[1]_, [#]_, [#label]_
- Minimal syntax to match the minimal footnote syntax above::
1_, #_, #label_
As a consequence, pure-numeric hyperlink references would not be
possible; they'd be interpreted as footnote references.
+ Citation references: no change is proposed from the current footnote
reference syntax::
[GVR2001]_
+ Citations:
- Current syntax (footnote syntax)::
.. [GVR2001] Python Documentation; van Rossum, Drake, et al.;
http://www.python.org/doc/
- Possible new syntax::
_[GVR2001] Python Documentation; van Rossum, Drake, et al.;
http://www.python.org/doc/
_[DJG2002]
Docutils: Python Documentation Utilities project; Goodger
et al.; http://docutils.sourceforge.net/
Without the ".. " marker, subsequent lines would either have to
align as in one of the above, or we'd have to allow loose
alignment (I'd rather not)::
_[GVR2001] Python Documentation; van Rossum, Drake, et al.;
http://www.python.org/doc/
I proposed adopting the "minimal" syntax for footnotes and footnote
references, and adding citations and citation references to
reStructuredText's repertoire. The current footnote syntax for
citations is better than the alternatives given.
From a reply by Tony Ibbs on 2002-03-01:
However, I think easier with examples, so let's create one::
Fans of Terry Pratchett are perhaps more likely to use
footnotes [1]_ in their own writings than other people
[2]_. Of course, in *general*, one only sees footnotes
in academic or technical writing - it's use in fiction
and letter writing is not normally considered good
style [4]_, particularly in emails (not a medium that
lends itself to footnotes).
.. [1] That is, little bits of referenced text at the
bottom of the page.
.. [2] Because Terry himself does, of course [3]_.
.. [3] Although he has the distinction of being
*funny* when he does it, and his fans don't always
achieve that aim.
.. [4] Presumably because it detracts from linear
reading of the text - this is, of course, the point.
and look at it with the second syntax proposal::
Fans of Terry Pratchett are perhaps more likely to use
footnotes [1]_ in their own writings than other people
[2]_. Of course, in *general*, one only sees footnotes
in academic or technical writing - it's use in fiction
and letter writing is not normally considered good
style [4]_, particularly in emails (not a medium that
lends itself to footnotes).
_[1] That is, little bits of referenced text at the
bottom of the page.
_[2] Because Terry himself does, of course [3]_.
_[3] Although he has the distinction of being
*funny* when he does it, and his fans don't always
achieve that aim.
_[4] Presumably because it detracts from linear
reading of the text - this is, of course, the point.
(I note here that if I have gotten the indentation of the
footnotes themselves correct, this is clearly not as nice. And if
the indentation should be to the left margin instead, I like that
even less).
and the third (new) proposal::
Fans of Terry Pratchett are perhaps more likely to use
footnotes 1_ in their own writings than other people
2_. Of course, in *general*, one only sees footnotes
in academic or technical writing - it's use in fiction
and letter writing is not normally considered good
style 4_, particularly in emails (not a medium that
lends itself to footnotes).
_1. That is, little bits of referenced text at the
bottom of the page.
_2. Because Terry himself does, of course 3_.
_3. Although he has the distinction of being
*funny* when he does it, and his fans don't always
achieve that aim.
_4. Presumably because it detracts from linear
reading of the text - this is, of course, the point.
I think I don't, in practice, mind the targets too much (the use
of a dot after the number helps a lot here), but I do have a
problem with the body text, in that I don't naturally separate out
the footnotes as different than the rest of the text - instead I
keep wondering why there are numbers interspered in the text. The
use of brackets around the numbers ([ and ]) made me somehow parse
the footnote references as "odd" - i.e., not part of the body text
- and thus both easier to skip, and also (paradoxically) easier to
pick out so that I could follow them.
Thus, for the moment (and as always susceptable to argument), I'd
say -1 on the new form of footnote reference (i.e., I much prefer
the existing ``[1]_`` over the proposed ``1_``), and ambivalent
over the proposed target change.
That leaves David's problem of wanting to distinguish footnotes
and citations - and the only thing I can propose there is that
footnotes are numeric or # and citations are not (which, as a
human being, I can probably cope with!).
From a reply by Paul Moore on 2002-03-01:
I think the current footnote syntax ``[1]_`` is *exactly* the
right balance of distinctness vs unobtrusiveness. I very
definitely don't think this should change.
On the target change, it doesn't matter much to me.
From a further reply by Tony Ibbs on 2002-03-01, referring to the
"[1]" form and actual usage in email:
Clearly this is a form people are used to, and thus we should
consider it strongly (in the same way that the usage of ``*..*``
to mean emphasis was taken partly from email practise).
Equally clearly, there is something "magical" for people in the
use of a similar form (i.e., ``[1]``) for both footnote reference
and footnote target - it seems natural to keep them similar.
...
I think that this established plaintext usage leads me to strongly
believe we should retain square brackets at both ends of a
footnote. The markup of the reference end (a single trailing
underscore) seems about as minimal as we can get away with. The
markup of the target end depends on how one envisages the thing -
if ".." means "I am a target" (as I tend to see it), then that's
good, but one can also argue that the "_[1]" syntax has a neat
symmetry with the footnote reference itself, if one wishes (in
which case ".." presumably means "hidden/special" as David seems
to think, which is why one needs a ".." *and* a leading underline
for hyperlink targets.
Given the persuading arguments voiced, we'll leave footnote & footnote
reference syntax alone. Except that these discussions gave rise to
the "auto-symbol footnote" concept, which has been added. Citations
and citation references have also been added.
Syntax for Questions & Answers
==============================
Implement as a generic two-column marked list? As a standalone
(non-directive) construct? (Is the markup ambiguous?) Add support to
parts.contents?
New elements would be required. Perhaps::
Originally I thought of implementing a Q&A list with special syntax::
Q: What am I?
A: You are a question-and-answer
list.
Q: What are you?
A: I am the omniscient "we".
Where each "Q" and "A" could also be numbered (e.g., "Q1"). However,
a simple enumerated or bulleted list will do just fine for syntax. A
directive could treat the list specially; e.g. the first paragraph
could be treated as a question, the remainder as the answer (multiple
answers could be represented by nested lists). Without special
syntax, this directive becomes low priority.
As described in the FAQ__, no special syntax or directive is needed
for this application.
__ http://docutils.sf.net/FAQ.html
#how-can-i-mark-up-a-faq-or-other-list-of-questions-answers
--------
Tabled
--------
Reworking Explicit Markup (Round 2)
===================================
See `Reworking Explicit Markup (Round 1)`_ for an earlier discussion.
In April 2004, a new thread becan on docutils-develop: `Inconsistency
in RST markup`__. Several arguments were made; the first argument
begat later arguments. Below, the arguments are paraphrased "in
quotes", with responses.
__ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.docutils.devel/1386
1. References and targets take this form::
targetname_
.. _targetname: stuff
But footnotes, "which generate links just like targets do", are
written as::
[1]_
.. [1] stuff
"Footnotes should be written as"::
[1]_
.. _[1]: stuff
But they're not the same type of animal. That's not a "footnote
target", it's a *footnote*. Being a target is not a footnote's
primary purpose (an arguable point). It just happens to grow a
target automatically, for convenience. Just as a section title::
Title
=====
isn't a "title target", it's a *title*, which happens to grow a
target automatically. The consistency is there, it's just deeper
than at first glance.
Also, ".. [1]" was chosen for footnote syntax because it closely
resembles one form of actual footnote rendering. ".. _[1]:" is too
verbose; excessive punctuation is required to get the job done.
For more of the reasoning behind the syntax, see `Problems With
StructuredText (Hyperlinks)
`__ and
`Reworking Footnotes`_.
2. "I expect directives to also look like ``.. this:`` [one colon]
because that also closely parallels the link and footnote target
markup."
There are good reasons for the two-colon syntax:
Two colons are used after the directive type for these reasons:
- Two colons are distinctive, and unlikely to be used in common
text.
- Two colons avoids clashes with common comment text like::
.. Danger: modify at your own risk!
- If an implementation of reStructuredText does not recognize a
directive (i.e., the directive-handler is not installed), a
level-3 (error) system message is generated, and the entire
directive block (including the directive itself) will be
included as a literal block. Thus "::" is a natural choice.
-- `restructuredtext.html#directives
<../../ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#directives>`__
The last reason is not particularly compelling; it's more of a
convenient coincidence or mnemonic.
3. "Comments always seemed too easy. I almost never write comments.
I'd have no problem writing '.. comment:' in front of my comments.
In fact, it would probably be more readable, as comments *should*
be set off strongly, because they are very different from normal
text."
Many people do use comments though, and some applications of
reStructuredText require it. For example, all reStructuredText
PEPs (and this document!) have an Emacs stanza at the bottom, in a
comment. Having to write ".. comment::" would be very obtrusive.
Comments *should* be dirt-easy to do. It should be easy to
"comment out" a block of text. Comments in programming languages
and other markup languages are invariably easy.
Any author is welcome to preface their comments with "Comment:" or
"Do Not Print" or "Note to Editor" or anything they like. A
"comment" directive could easily be implemented. It might be
confused with admonition directives, like "note" and "caution"
though. In unrelated (and unpublished and unfinished) work, adding
a "comment" directive as a true document element was considered::
If structure is necessary, we could use a "comment" directive
(to avoid nonsensical DTD changes, the "comment" directive
could produce an untitled topic element).
4. "One of the goals of reStructuredText is to be *readable* by people
who don't know it. This construction violates that: it is not at
all obvious to the uninitiated that text marked by '..' is a
comment. On the other hand, '.. comment:' would be totally
transparent."
Totally transparent, perhaps, but also very obtrusive. Another of
`reStructuredText's goals`_ is to be unobtrusive, and
".. comment::" would violate that. The goals of reStructuredText
are many, and they conflict. Determining the right set of goals
and finding solutions that best fit is done on a case-by-case
basis.
Even readability is has two aspects. Being readable without any
prior knowledge is one. Being as easily read in raw form as in
processed form is the other. ".." may not contribute to the former
aspect, but ".. comment::" would certainly detract from the latter.
.. _author's note:
.. _reStructuredText's goals: ../../ref/rst/introduction.html#goals
5. "Recently I sent someone an rst document, and they got confused; I
had to explain to them that '..' marks comments, *unless* it's a
directive, etc..."
The explanation of directives *is* roundabout, defining comments in
terms of not being other things. That's definitely a wart.
6. "Under the current system, a mistyped directive (with ':' instead
of '::') will be silently ignored. This is an error that could
easily go unnoticed."
A parser option/setting like "--comments-on-stderr" would help.
7. "I'd prefer to see double-dot-space / command / double-colon as the
standard Docutils markup-marker. It's unusual enough to avoid
being accidently used. Everything that starts with a double-dot
should end with a double-colon."
That would increase the punctuation verbosity of some constructs
considerably.
8. Edward Loper proposed the following plan for backwards
compatibility:
1. ".. foo" will generate a deprecation warning to stderr, and
nothing in the output (no system messages).
2. ".. foo: bar" will be treated as a directive foo. If there
is no foo directive, then do the normal error output.
3. ".. foo:: bar" will generate a deprecation warning to
stderr, and be treated as a directive. Or leave it valid?
So some existing documents might start printing deprecation
warnings, but the only existing documents that would *break*
would be ones that say something like::
.. warning: this should be a comment
instead of::
.. warning:: this should be a comment
Here, we're trading fairly common a silent error (directive
falsely treated as a comment) for a fairly uncommon explicitly
flagged error (comment falsely treated as directive). To make
things even easier, we could add a sentence to the
unknown-directive error. Something like "If you intended to
create a comment, please use '.. comment:' instead".
On one hand, I understand and sympathize with the points raised. On
the other hand, I think the current syntax strikes the right balance
(but I acknowledge a possible lack of objectivity). On the gripping
hand, the comment and directive syntax has become well established, so
even if it's a wart, it may be a wart we have to live with.
Making any of these changes would cause a lot of breakage or at least
deprecation warnings. I'm not sure the benefit is worth the cost.
For now, we'll treat this as an unresolved legacy issue.
-------
To Do
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Nested Inline Markup
====================
These are collected notes on a long-discussed issue. The original
mailing list messages should be referred to for details.
* In a 2001-10-31 discussion I wrote:
Try, for example, `Ed Loper's 2001-03-21 post`_, which details
some rules for nested inline markup. I think the complexity is
prohibitive for the marginal benefit. (And if you can understand
that tree without going mad, you're a better man than I. ;-)
Inline markup is already fragile. Allowing nested inline markup
would only be asking for trouble IMHO. If it proves absolutely
necessary, it can be added later. The rules for what can appear
inside what must be well thought out first though.
.. _Ed Loper's 2001-03-21 post:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-March/001487.html
-- http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-October/002354.html
* In a 2001-11-09 Doc-SIG post, I wrote:
The problem is that in the
what-you-see-is-more-or-less-what-you-get markup language that
is reStructuredText, the symbols used for inline markup ("*",
"**", "`", "``", etc.) may preclude nesting.
I've rethought this position. Nested markup is not precluded, just
tricky. People and software parse "double and 'single' quotes" all
the time. Continuing,
I've thought over how we might implement nested inline
markup. The first algorithm ("first identify the outer inline
markup as we do now, then recursively scan for nested inline
markup") won't work; counterexamples were given in my `last post
`__.
The second algorithm makes my head hurt::
while 1:
scan for start-string
if found:
push on stack
scan for start or end string
if new start string found:
recurse
elif matching end string found:
pop stack
elif non-matching end string found:
if its a markup error:
generate warning
elif the initial start-string was misinterpreted:
# e.g. in this case: ***strong** in emphasis*
restart with the other interpretation
# but it might be several layers back ...
...
This is similar to how the parser does section title
recognition, but sections are much more regular and
deterministic.
Bottom line is, I don't think the benefits are worth the effort,
even if it is possible. I'm not going to try to write the code,
at least not now. If somebody codes up a consistent, working,
general solution, I'll be happy to consider it.
-- http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-November/002388.html
* In a `2003-05-06 Docutils-Users post`__ Paul Tremblay proposed a new
syntax to allow for easier nesting. It eventually evolved into
this::
:role:[inline text]
The duplication with the existing interpreted text syntax is
problematic though.
__ http://article.gmane.org/gmane.text.docutils.user/317
* Could the parser be extended to parse nested interpreted text? ::
:emphasis:`Some emphasized text with :strong:`some more
emphasized text` in it and **perhaps** :reference:`a link``
* In a `2003-06-18 Docutils-Develop post`__, Mark Nodine reported on
his implementation of a form of nested inline markup in his
Perl-based parser (unpublished). He brought up some interesting
ideas. The implementation was flawed, however, by the change in
semantics required for backslash escapes.
__ http://article.gmane.org/gmane.text.docutils.devel/795
* Docutils-develop threads between David Abrahams, David Goodger, and
Mark Nodine (beginning 2004-01-16__ and 2004-01-19__) hashed out
many of the details of a potentially successful implementation, as
described below. David Abrahams checked in code to the "nesting"
branch of CVS, awaiting thorough review.
__ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.docutils.devel/1102
__ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.text.docutils.devel/1125
It may be possible to accomplish nested inline markup in general with
a more powerful inline markup parser. There may be some issues, but
I'm not averse to the idea of nested inline markup in general. I just
don't have the time or inclination to write a new parser now. Of
course, a good patch would be welcome!
I envisage something like this. Explicit-role interpreted text must
be nestable. Prefix-based is probably preferred, since suffix-based
will look like inline literals::
``text`:role1:`:role2:
But it can be disambiguated, so it ought to be left up to the author::
`\ `text`:role1:`:role2:
In addition, other forms of inline markup may be nested if
unambiguous::
*emphasized ``literal`` and |substitution ref| and link_*
IOW, the parser ought to be as permissive as possible.
Index Entries & Indexes
=======================
Were I writing a book with an index, I guess I'd need two
different kinds of index targets: inline/implicit and
out-of-line/explicit. For example::
In this `paragraph`:index:, several words are being
`marked`:index: inline as implicit `index`:index:
entries.
.. index:: markup
.. index:: syntax
The explicit index directives above would refer to
this paragraph. It might also make sense to allow multiple
entries in an ``index`` directive:
.. index::
markup
syntax
The words "paragraph", "marked", and "index" would become index
entries pointing at the words in the first paragraph. The index
entry words appear verbatim in the text. (Don't worry about the
ugly ":index:" part; if indexing is the only/main application of
interpreted text in your documents, it can be implicit and
omitted.) The two directives provide manual indexing, where the
index entry words ("markup" and "syntax") do not appear in the
main text. We could combine the two directives into one::
.. index:: markup; syntax
Semicolons instead of commas because commas could *be* part of the
index target, like::
.. index:: van Rossum, Guido
Another reason for index directives is because other inline markup
wouldn't be possible within inline index targets.
Sometimes index entries have multiple levels. Given::
.. index:: statement syntax: expression statements
In a hypothetical index, combined with other entries, it might
look like this::
statement syntax
expression statements ..... 56
assignment ................ 57
simple statements ......... 58
compound statements ....... 60
Inline multi-level index targets could be done too. Perhaps
something like::
When dealing with `expression statements `,
we must remember ...
The opposite sense could also be possible::
When dealing with `index entries <:multi-level>`, there are
many permutations to consider.
Also "see / see also" index entries.
Given::
Here's a paragraph.
.. index:: paragraph
(The "index" directive above actually targets the *preceding*
object.) The directive should produce something like this XML::
Here's a paragraph.
This kind of content model would also allow true inline
index-entries::
Here's a `paragraph`:index:.
If the "index" role were the default for the application, it could be
dropped::
Here's a `paragraph`.
Both of these would result in this XML::
Here's a paragraph.
from 2002-06-24 docutils-develop posts
--------------------------------------
If all of your index entries will appear verbatim in the text,
this should be sufficient. If not (e.g., if you want "Van Rossum,
Guido" in the index but "Guido van Rossum" in the text), we'll
have to figure out a supplemental mechanism, perhaps using
substitutions.
I've thought a bit more on this, and I came up with two possibilities:
1. Using interpreted text, embed the index entry text within the
interpreted text::
... by `Guido van Rossum [Van Rossum, Guido]` ...
The problem with this is obvious: the text becomes cluttered and
hard to read. The processed output would drop the text in
brackets, which goes against the spirit of interpreted text.
2. Use substitutions::
... by |Guido van Rossum| ...
.. |Guido van Rossum| index:: Van Rossum, Guido
A problem with this is that each substitution definition must have
a unique name. A subsequent ``.. |Guido van Rossum| index:: BDFL``
would be illegal. Some kind of anonymous substitution definition
mechanism would be required, but I think that's going too far.
Both of these alternatives are flawed. Any other ideas?
-------------------
... Or Not To Do?
-------------------
This is the realm of the possible but questionably probable. These
ideas are kept here as a record of what has been proposed, for
posterity and in case any of them prove to be useful.
Compound Enumerated Lists
=========================
Allow for compound enumerators, such as "1.1." or "1.a." or "1(a)", to
allow for nested enumerated lists without indentation?
Indented Lists
==============
Allow for variant styles by interpreting indented lists as if they
weren't indented? For example, currently the list below will be
parsed as a list within a block quote::
paragraph
* list item 1
* list item 2
But a lot of people seem to write that way, and HTML browsers make it
look as if that's the way it should be. The parser could check the
contents of block quotes, and if they contain only a single list,
remove the block quote wrapper. There would be two problems:
1. What if we actually *do* want a list inside a block quote?
2. What if such a list comes immediately after an indented construct,
such as a literal block?
Both could be solved using empty comments (problem 2 already exists
for a block quote after a literal block). But that's a hack.
Perhaps a runtime setting, allowing or disabling this convenience,
would be appropriate. But that raises issues too:
User A, who writes lists indented (and their config file is set up
to allow it), sends a file to user B, who doesn't (and their
config file disables indented lists). The result of processing by
the two users will be different.
It may seem minor, but it adds ambiguity to the parser, which is bad.
See the `Doc-SIG discussion starting 2001-04-18`__ with Ed Loper's
"Structuring: a summary; and an attempt at EBNF", item 4 (and
follow-ups, here__ and here__). Also `docutils-users, 2003-02-17`__
and `beginning 2003-08-04`__.
__ http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-April/001776.html
__ http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-April/001789.html
__ http://mail.python.org/pipermail/doc-sig/2001-April/001793.html
__ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3838913
__ http://sf.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2957175&forum_id=11444
Sloppy Indentation of List Items
================================
Perhaps the indentation shouldn't be so strict. Currently, this is
required::
1. First line,
second line.
Anything wrong with this? ::
1. First line,
second line.
Problem? ::
1. First para.
Block quote. (no good: requires some indent relative to first
para)
Second Para.
2. Have to carefully define where the literal block ends::
Literal block
Literal block?
Hmm... Non-strict indentation isn't such a good idea.
Lazy Indentation of List Items
==============================
Another approach: Going back to the first draft of reStructuredText
(2000-11-27 post to Doc-SIG)::
- This is the fourth item of the main list (no blank line above).
The second line of this item is not indented relative to the
bullet, which precludes it from having a second paragraph.
Change that to *require* a blank line above and below, to reduce
ambiguity. This "loosening" may be added later, once the parser's
been nailed down. However, a serious drawback of this approach is to
limit the content of each list item to a single paragraph.
David's Idea for Lazy Indentation
---------------------------------
Consider a paragraph in a word processor. It is a single logical line
of text which ends with a newline, soft-wrapped arbitrarily at the
right edge of the page or screen. We can think of a plaintext
paragraph in the same way, as a single logical line of text, ending
with two newlines (a blank line) instead of one, and which may contain
arbitrary line breaks (newlines) where it was accidentally
hard-wrapped by an application. We can compensate for the accidental
hard-wrapping by "unwrapping" every unindented second and subsequent
line. The indentation of the first line of a paragraph or list item
would determine the indentation for the entire element. Blank lines
would be required between list items when using lazy indentation.
The following example shows the lazy indentation of multiple body
elements::
- This is the first paragraph
of the first list item.
Here is the second paragraph
of the first list item.
- This is the first paragraph
of the second list item.
Here is the second paragraph
of the second list item.
A more complex example shows the limitations of lazy indentation::
- This is the first paragraph
of the first list item.
Next is a definition list item:
Term
Definition. The indentation of the term is
required, as is the indentation of the definition's
first line.
When the definition extends to more than
one line, lazy indentation may occur. (This is the second
paragraph of the definition.)
- This is the first paragraph
of the second list item.
- Here is the first paragraph of
the first item of a nested list.
So this paragraph would be outside of the nested list,
but inside the second list item of the outer list.
But this paragraph is not part of the list at all.
And the ambiguity remains::
- Look at the hyphen at the beginning of the next line
- is it a second list item marker, or a dash in the text?
Similarly, we may want to refer to numbers inside enumerated
lists:
1. How many socks in a pair? There are
2. How many pants in a pair? Exactly
1. Go figure.
Literal blocks and block quotes would still require consistent
indentation for all their lines. For block quotes, we might be able
to get away with only requiring that the first line of each contained
element be indented. For example::
Here's a paragraph.
This is a paragraph inside a block quote.
Second and subsequent lines need not be indented at all.
- A bullet list inside
the block quote.
Second paragraph of the
bullet list inside the block quote.
Although feasible, this form of lazy indentation has problems. The
document structure and hierarchy is not obvious from the indentation,
making the source plaintext difficult to read. This will also make
keeping track of the indentation while writing difficult and
error-prone. However, these problems may be acceptable for Wikis and
email mode, where we may be able to rely on less complex structure
(few nested lists, for example).
Multiple Roles in Interpreted Text
==================================
In reStructuredText, inline markup cannot be nested (yet; `see
above`__). This also applies to interpreted text. In order to
simultaneously combine multiple roles for a single piece of text, a
syntax extension would be necessary. Ideas:
1. Initial idea::
`interpreted text`:role1,role2:
2. Suggested by Jason Diamond::
`interpreted text`:role1:role2:
If a document is so complex as to require nested inline markup,
perhaps another markup system should be considered. By design,
reStructuredText does not have the flexibility of XML.
__ `Nested Inline Markup`_
Parameterized Interpreted Text
==============================
In some cases it may be expedient to pass parameters to interpreted
text, analogous to function calls. Ideas:
1. Parameterize the interpreted text role itself (suggested by Jason
Diamond)::
`interpreted text`:role1(foo=bar):
Positional parameters could also be supported::
`CSS`:acronym(Cascading Style Sheets): is used for HTML, and
`CSS`:acronym(Content Scrambling System): is used for DVDs.
Technical problem: current interpreted text syntax does not
recognize roles containing whitespace. Design problem: this smells
like programming language syntax, but reStructuredText is not a
programming language.
2. Put the parameters inside the interpreted text::
`CSS (Cascading Style Sheets)`:acronym: is used for HTML, and
`CSS (Content Scrambling System)`:acronym: is used for DVDs.
Although this could be defined on an individual basis (per role),
we ought to have a standard. Hyperlinks with embedded URIs already
use angle brackets; perhaps they could be used here too::
`CSS `:acronym: is used for HTML, and
`CSS `:acronym: is used for DVDs.
Do angle brackets connote URLs too much for this to be acceptable?
How about the "tag" connotation -- does it save them or doom them?
3. `Nested inline markup`_ could prove useful here::
`CSS :def:`Cascading Style Sheets``:acronym: is used for HTML,
and `CSS :def:`Content Scrambling System``:acronym: is used for
DVDs.
Inline markup roles could even define the default roles of nested
inline markup, allowing this cleaner syntax::
`CSS `Cascading Style Sheets``:acronym: is used for HTML, and
`CSS `Content Scrambling System``:acronym: is used for DVDs.
Does this push inline markup too far? Readability becomes a serious
issue. Substitutions may provide a better alternative (at the expense
of verbosity and duplication) by pulling the details out of the text
flow::
|CSS| is used for HTML, and |CSS-DVD| is used for DVDs.
.. |CSS| acronym:: Cascading Style Sheets
.. |CSS-DVD| acronym:: Content Scrambling System
:text: CSS
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This whole idea may be going beyond the scope of reStructuredText.
Documents requiring this functionality may be better off using XML or
another markup system.
This argument comes up regularly when pushing the envelope of
reStructuredText syntax. I think it's a useful argument in that it
provides a check on creeping featurism. In many cases, the resulting
verbosity produces such unreadable plaintext that there's a natural
desire *not* to use it unless absolutely necessary. It's a matter of
finding the right balance.
Syntax for Interpreted Text Role Bindings
=========================================
The following syntax (idea from Jeffrey C. Jacobs) could be used to
associate directives with roles::
.. :rewrite: class:: rewrite
`She wore ribbons in her hair and it lay with streaks of
grey`:rewrite:
The syntax is similar to that of substitution declarations, and the
directive/role association may resolve implementation issues. The
semantics, ramifications, and implementation details would need to be
worked out.
The example above would implement the "rewrite" role as adding a
``class="rewrite"`` attribute to the interpreted text ("inline"
element). The stylesheet would then pick up on the "class" attribute
to do the actual formatting.
The advantage of the new syntax would be flexibility. Uses other than
"class" may present themselves. The disadvantage is complexity:
having to implement new syntax for a relatively specialized operation,
and having new semantics in existing directives ("class::" would do
something different).
The `"role" directive`__ has been implemented.
__ ../../ref/rst/directives.html#role
Character Processing
====================
Several people have suggested adding some form of character processing
to reStructuredText:
* Some sort of automated replacement of ASCII sequences:
- ``--`` to em-dash (or ``--`` to en-dash, and ``---`` to em-dash).
- Convert quotes to curly quote entities. (Essentially impossible
for HTML? Unnecessary for TeX.)
- Various forms of ``:-)`` to smiley icons.
- ``"\ "`` to . Problem with line-wrapping though: it could
end up escaping the newline.
- Escaped newlines to
.
- Escaped period or quote or dash as a disappearing catalyst to
allow character-level inline markup?
* XML-style character entities, such as "©" for the copyright
symbol.
Docutils has no need of a character entity subsystem. Supporting
Unicode and text encodings, character entities should be directly
represented in the text: a copyright symbol should be represented by
the copyright symbol character. If this is not possible in an
authoring environment, a pre-processing stage can be added, or a table
of substitution definitions can be devised.
A "unicode" directive has been implemented to allow direct
specification of esoteric characters. In combination with the
substitution construct, "include" files defining common sets of
character entities can be defined and used. `A set of character
entity set definition files have been defined`__ (`tarball`__).
There's also `a description and instructions for use`__.
__ http://docutils.sf.net/tmp/charents/
__ http://docutils.sf.net/tmp/charents.tgz
__ http://docutils.sf.net/tmp/charents/README.html
To allow for `character-level inline markup`_, a limited form of
character processing has been added to the spec and parser: escaped
whitespace characters are removed from the processed document. Any
further character processing will be of this functional type, rather
than of the character-encoding type.
.. _character-level inline markup:
../../ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#character-level-inline-markup
* Directive idea::
.. text-replace:: "pattern" "replacement"
- Support Unicode "U+XXXX" codes.
- Support regexps, perhaps with alternative "regexp-replace"
directive.
- Flags for regexps; ":flags:" option, or individuals.
- Specifically, should the default be case-sensistive or
-insensitive?
Page Or Line Breaks
===================
* Should ^L (or something else in reST) be defined to mean
force/suggest page breaks in whatever output we have?
A "break" or "page-break" directive would be easy to add. A new
doctree element would be required though (perhaps "break"). The
final behavior would be up to the Writer. The directive argument
could be one of page/column/recto/verso for added flexibility.
Currently ^L (Python's ``\f``) characters are treated as whitespace.
They're converted to single spaces, actually, as are vertical tabs
(^K, Python's ``\v``). It would be possible to recognize form feeds
as markup, but it requires some thought and discussion first. Are
there any downsides? Many editing environments do not allow the
insertion of control characters. Will it cause any harm? It would
be useful as a shorthand for the directive.
It's common practice to use ^L before Emacs "Local Variables"
lists::
^L
..
Local Variables:
mode: indented-text
indent-tabs-mode: nil
sentence-end-double-space: t
fill-column: 70
End:
These are already present in many PEPs and Docutils project
documents. From the Emacs manual (info):
A "local variables list" goes near the end of the file, in the
last page. (It is often best to put it on a page by itself.)
It would be unfortunate if this construct caused a final blank page
to be generated (for those Writers that recognize the page breaks).
We'll have to add a transform that looks for a "break" plus zero or
more comments at the end of a document, and removes them.
Probably a bad idea because there is no such thing as a page in a
generic document format.
* Could the "break" concept above be extended to inline forms?
E.g. "^L" in the middle of a sentence could cause a line break.
Only recognize it at the end of a line (i.e., ``\f\n``)?
Or is formfeed inappropriate? Perhaps vertical tab (``\v``), but
even that's a stretch. Can't use carriage returns, since they're
commonly used for line endings.
Probably a bad idea as well because we do not want to use control
characters for well-readable and well-writable markup, and after all
we have the line block syntax for line breaks.
Superscript Markup
==================
Add ``^superscript^`` inline markup? The only common non-markup uses
of "^" I can think of are as short hand for "superscript" itself and
for describing control characters ("^C to cancel"). The former
supports the proposed syntax, and it could be argued that the latter
ought to be literal text anyhow (e.g. "``^C`` to cancel").
However, superscripts are seldom needed, and new syntax would break
existing documents. When it's needed, the ``:superscript:``
(``:sup:``) role can we used as well.
Code Execution
==============
Add the following directives?
- "exec": Execute Python code & insert the results. Call it
"python" to allow for other languages?
- "system": Execute an ``os.system()`` call, and insert the results
(possibly as a literal block). Definitely dangerous! How to make
it safe? Perhaps such processing should be left outside of the
document, in the user's production system (a makefile or a script or
whatever). Or, the directive could be disabled by default and only
enabled with an explicit command-line option or config file setting.
Even then, an interactive prompt may be useful, such as:
The file.txt document you are processing contains a "system"
directive requesting that the ``sudo rm -rf /`` command be
executed. Allow it to execute? (y/N)
- "eval": Evaluate an expression & insert the text. At parse
time or at substitution time? Dangerous? Perhaps limit to canned
macros; see text.date_.
.. _text.date: ../todo.html#text-date
It's too dangerous (or too complicated in the case of "eval"). We do
not want to have such things in the core.
``encoding`` Directive
======================
Add an "encoding" directive to specify the character encoding of the
input data? Not a good idea for the following reasons:
- When it sees the directive, the parser will already have read the
input data, and encoding determination will already have been done.
- If a file with an "encoding" directive is edited and saved with
a different encoding, the directive may cause data corruption.
Support for Annotations
=======================
Add an "annotation" role, as the equivalent of the HTML "title"
attribute? This is secondary information that may "pop up" when the
pointer hovers over the main text. A corresponding directive would be
required to associate annotations with the original text (by name, or
positionally as in anonymous targets?).
There have not been many requests for such feature, though. Also,
cluttering WYSIWYG plaintext with annotations may not seem like a good
idea, and there is no "tool tip" in formats other than HTML.
``term`` Role
=============
Add a "term" role for unfamiliar or specialized terminology? Probably
not; there is no real use case, and emphasis is enough for most cases.
Object references
=================
We need syntax for `object references`_.
- Parameterized substitutions? For example::
See |figure (figure name)| on |page (figure name)|.
.. |figure (name)| figure-ref:: (name)
.. |page (name)| page-ref:: (name)
The result would be::
See figure 3.11 on page 157.
But this would require substitution directives to be processed at
reference-time, not at definition-time as they are now. Or,
perhaps the directives could just leave ``pending`` elements
behind, and the transforms do the work? How to pass the data
through? Too complicated. Use interpreted text roles.
.. _object references:
../todo.html#object-numbering-and-object-references
..
Local Variables:
mode: indented-text
indent-tabs-mode: nil
sentence-end-double-space: t
fill-column: 70
End: