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From: [email protected] (John Navitsky)
Subject: Re: Ford Probe - Opinions? (centered around the GT)
In article <...> [email protected] (Bill Heiser) writes:
>In article <...> [email protected] (Chuck Kesler) writes:
>>>"Jeremy G. Mereness" says:
>>>>Can anyone offer any opinions of the Ford Probe... ala how they do in
>>>>the long run, repair records, reliability, mileage, etc?
I've found mine ('93 Probe GT) to do quite well.
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>I have had my Probe looked at twice by my local dealer (where I purchased
>the car) ... the first time, they made this problem worse. The second time,
>after advising them of the service bulletin mentioned on my ford-probe mailing
>list (they said they didn't know of the bulletin), they adjusted the window and
>made it *much* better. However it now makes a "scritch scritch" noise on rough
>roads, and *still* squeals when I open/close the window in wet weather (anyone
>elses's do this?)
I've not had any of the air or leakage problems that have been reported but
do get the squeal that Bill describes. I live in Seattle so the wet weather
may be a factor.
>>>Ford only gives 1 key with the car. C'mon Ford, spend an extra few pennies!
If I recall correctly I got two keys.
>>>horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in
>>>center (personal preference)
>"you've-got-to-position-the-fingers-perfectly-to-make-it-beep" buttons are
>TERRIBLE.
This is true. I'm wondering if this may be a safety concern. IE, if people
pound on the place where the airbag lives...
>>Speaking of the horn, I was surprised to find that the Probe comes with one
>>of those nice 'merican sounding horns instead of the Japanese sounding kind.
>>The previous Probes had Japanese horns.
No opinion.
>>>transmission (the 5 speed is a must)
>I have always been a 5-speed guy. Almost every car I've ever owned has been
>a 5-speed. Because I got a good deal on this car with the 2500 miles, I
>(knowingly) overlooked the fact that it has an automatic. But it is a pretty
>high-tech automatic. It is a fully electronicaly controlled 4-speed with
The 5 speed is much more fun. We opted for the automatic for a number of
reasons but it's still fun, and in some ways more practical.
>>>No shake/rattle noises when going over bumps/potholes (still!)
Ditto.
>Shakes and rattles has been my main gripe. I've gotten them to fix the
>worst of them, but I fear that with the rather harsh ride, the car will
>be a virtual potpouri of rattles when it gets older.
I too would suspect that this may be true.
>>>Tires: 225/55VR16 Goodyear Eagles (70% left; hoping for 30K :-)
>very very very well. It sticks to the road like glue, even on a rough
>surface.
Yes!
>>interior is very, very nice too. Very pleasing to the eye, and ergonomically
>>sound.
>Definitely. Ford/Mazda did a very very nice job on this one. The
>car has a "much more expensive than it actually is" look and feel to it.
Ditto.
>>Yes, this car's stiff suspension isn't for everyone. I personally like it,
>>but if you find it a little harsh but otherwise like the car, I'd strongly
>>suggest looking into the MX-6.
Agree. Check it out. I don't mind it but would say that if it was much
stiffer it might be a problem. (How about the '93 R1 RX-7 for suspension?!)
>Well I wouldn't encourage passenger-carrying in the Probe unless the
>person in the front seat likes to sit with his knees to the dash. As
>mentioned in the Consumer Reports write-ups, "consider the back seat
>as a parcel shelf". No biggie to me though (if it had been, I'd not
>have bought the car! (but it's definitely not a family car)).
True.
>>>I've heard that the exhaust system has trouble, but mine works fine.
>>I haven't heard about this one. I know that some of the very early Probes
>>('89 and maybe '90) had problems with prematurely rusting mufflers (which
I've had this problem and read about it. (or at least I assume the one
I had was the one I read about :-). In any case what happened was the
weld between the muffler and the pipe feeding it (ok, so I'm not a mechanic)
broke. In my case the dealer welded it, ordered replacement parts and
put them on when they got them. I suspect this is some sort of 1) design
flaw, or 2) production flaw. In any case I have an earlier model and would
expect it to be worked out on newer ones. In any case it is a warrantee
repair. (or they get the keys back!)
>>From what I've heard, it sounds like Ford/Mazda had some QC problems with
>>the Probe (and probably MX-6) when they first went into production, but
>>I think these problems have mostly been corrected at this point. That's
>>almost always to be expected with a completely new car like this, though.
>I have to agree that they seem to have some QC problesm. But I seriously
>feel the car design is sound, and expect it to do very well.
I second this. There seems to be some things that slipped through but the
car seems very sound. While not perfection (what is) you get an awful
lot for your money.
>--
>Bill Heiser [email protected], [email protected]
> Boston University, Boston MA
BTW, Bill has a Probe mailing list. You might want to subscribe to it if
you are interested in more detail. Try [email protected]
(did I get that right? never can remember if the request goes on the
front or the back :-)
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