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From: [email protected] (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)
In article [email protected] (Jon Noring) writes:
>>There is no convincing evidence that such a disease exists.
>There's a lot of evidence, it just hasn't been adequately gathered and
>published in a way that will convince the die-hard melancholic skeptics
>who quiver everytime the word 'anecdote' or 'empirical' is used.
Snort. Ah, there go my sinuses again.
>For example, Dr. Ivker, who wrote the book "Sinus Survival", always gives,
Oh, wow. A classic textbook. Hey, they laughed at Einstein, too!
>before any other treatment, a systemic anti-fungal (such as Nizoral) to his
>new patients IF they've been on braod-spectrum anti-biotics 4 or more times
>in the last two years. He's kept a record of the results, and for over
>2000 patients found that over 90% of his patients get significant relief
>of allergic/sinus symptoms. Of course, this is only the beginning for his
>program.
Yeah, I'll bet. Tomorrow, the world.
Listen, uncontrolled studies like this are worthless.
>In my case, as I reported a few weeks ago, I was developing the classic
>symptoms outlined in 'The Yeast Connection' (I agree it is a poorly
>written book): e.g., extreme sensitivity to plastics, vapors, etc. which
>I never had before (started in November). Within one week of full dosage
>of Sporanox, the sensitivity to chemicals has fully disappeared - I can
>now sit on my couch at home without dying after two minutes. I'm also
>*greatly* improved in other areas as well.
I'm sure you are. You sound like the typical hysteric/hypochondriac who
responds to "miracle cures."
>Of course, I have allergy symptoms, etc. I am especially allergic to
>molds, yeasts, etc. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that
>if one has excessive colonization of yeast in the body, and you have a
>natural allergy to yeasts, that a threshold would be reached where you
>would have perceptible symptoms.
Yeah, "it makes sense to me", so of course it should be taken seriously.
Snort.
>Also, yeast do produce toxins of various
>sorts, and again, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that
>such toxins can cause problems in some people.
Yeah, "it sounds reasonable to me".
>Of course, the $60,000
>question is whether a person who is immune compromised (as tests showed I was
>from over 5 years of antibiotics, nutritionally-deficiencies because of the
>stress of infections and allergies, etc.),
Oh, really? _What_ tests? Immune-compromised, my ass.
More like credulous malingerer. This is a psychiatric syndrome.
>can develop excessive yeast
>colonization somewhere in the body. It is a tough question to answer since
>testing for excessive yeast colonization is not easy. One almost has to
>take an empirical approach to diagnosis. Fortunately, Sporanox is relatively
>safe unlike past anti-fungals (still have to be careful, however) so there's
>no reason any longer to withhold Sporanox treatment for empirical reasons.
You know, it's a shame that a drug like itraconazole is being misused
in this way. It's ridiculously expensive, and potentially toxic.
The trouble is that it isn't toxic enough, so it gets abused by quacks.
>BTW, some would say to try Nystatin. Unfortunately, most yeast grows hyphae
>too deep into tissue for Nystatin to have any permanent affect. You'll find
>a lot of people who are on Nystatin all the time.
The only good thing about nystatin is that it's (relatively) cheap
and when taken orally, non-toxic. But oral nystatin is without any
systemic effect, so unless it were given IV, it would be without
any effect on your sinuses. I wish these quacks would first use
IV nystatin or amphotericin B on people like you. That would solve
the "yeast" problem once and for all.
>In summary, I appreciate all of the attempts by those who desire to keep
>medicine on the right road. But methinks that some who hold too firmly
>to the party line are academics who haven't been in the trenches long enough
>actually treating patients. If anybody, doctors included, said to me to my
>face that there is no evidence of the 'yeast connection', I cannot guarantee
>their safety. For their incompetence, ripping off their lips is justified as
>far as I am concerned.
Perhaps a little Haldol would go a long way towards ameliorating
your symptoms.
Are you paying for this treatment out of your own pocket? I'd hate
to think my insurance premiums are going towards this.
--
Steve Dyer
[email protected] aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
