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From: [email protected] (Mike Jones)
Subject: Re: Bonilla
Reply-To: [email protected]
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[email protected] (Ted Frank) writes:
>In article [email protected] writes:
>>[email protected] (Eric Roush) writes:
>>>>(Quick: name a
>>>>light-hitting black outfielder or 1B who lasted 10+ years in the bigs.
>>>>I bet you can name two dozen white ones.)
>>>Otis Nixon.
>Stole 300 bases. (Ok, he's still light-hitting, but baseball managers don't
>think so, they think he, like Omar Moreno before him, is a perfect leadoff
>man. Awesome defense.)
Well, yeah. On the other hand, for the first few years of his career he
looked like Herb Washington. Dan Gladden doesn't seem to suck defensively,
either.
>>>Darnell Coles
>He's still around because of his 1986, when he hit 20 HR.
Yeah, and how many of the white guys played one year into a long career?
It's actually not an uncommon phenomenon, and how long a guy hangs around
based on one good year seems like a reasonable question to explore on a
racial basis.
>>Billy Hatcher
>We'll see if he's still around in 1994 for his tenth year.
Hey, he plays for Lou Gorman, doesn't he? OK, so it's eight years.
>>OK, I admit to taking a quick browse through the Major League Handbook, but
>>only after the first 7 or 8. Oh, and there's the all-time light-hitting
>>black outfielder: Lou Brock. Look it up. And Curt Flood. Cesar Geronimo.
>>Cesar Cedeno.
>Brock suffered from Otis Nixon disease, but he wasn't perceived as
>light-hitting. Neither was Curt Flood. Cesar Cedeno was *not* light-
>hitting.
Good point on Cedeno. OTOH, I haven't seen that extensive list of 10-year
Dan Gladdens, either. There really aren't that many players altogether who
hang around for 10 years even if they're reasonably good.
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