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From: [email protected] (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: story
Organization: AT&T
Summary: "Behavior"
Keywords: PARTY!!!!
Lines: 86
In article , [email protected] (Charles Sundheim) writes:
> [email protected] (Lynn E. Hall) writes:
>
> >>[email protected] (Lynn E. Hall) writes:
> >>
> >> [description of a pretty rowdy-sounding party]
> >>
> >>And still we wonder why they stereotype us...
> >>
> >>-Erc.
>
> > Whacha mean 'we'...ifin they (whom ever 'they' are) want to stereotype me
> >as one that likes to drink beer and watch lovely ladies display their
> >beautiful bodies - I like that stereotype.
> > If you were refering 'stereotype' to infer a negative - you noticed we
> >didn't rape, pillage, or burn down the town. We also left mucho bucks as in
> >MONEY with the town. Me thinks the town LIKES us. Least they said so.
> > Lynn Hall - NOS Bros
>
>
> They bein' themfolk who tend to compose fair piece of the population;
> bein the ones that regard bikers as a loud, irresponsible, irreverent,
> reprobate rabble.
Doesn't sound like they attended, though, does it? In fact, if we riders
need friends, it sounds a lot like we might have a whole townfull from
Lynn's description, especially if the same crowd gets invited back
to party some more year after year.
> Sure you didn't rape and pillage-- It's a relief to know that you were
> such gentlemen-- but because you were not completely out-of-hand you
> justify your lesser indescretions? Some pretty distorted thinking, I
> should say.
You seem to be one of very few bent out of shape over these "lesser
indiscretions". If the towns-people aren't ruffled by the
"indiscretions" and the partyers aren't either, maybe the "indiscretions"
don't amount to anything more threatening or damaging than harmless
good-natured rowdiness among consenting adults. The only thing that
really bothered me about the description was the knee-deep empty beer cans
in the street, but maybe the town had a plan to deal with that since they
helped set up the party in the first place. If I lived there and the
bikers' previous visits had established a record of mutual cooperation
and good intentions, I'd certainly rather they stick around and party
than go riding off into the night impaired and maybe get hurt or killed.
> Oh-- I'm sorry, I just noticed that you left mucho bucks (as in MONEY)...
> Nevermind my criticism, I was out of line. I forgot that when one leaves
> mucho bucks (as in MONEY) their behavior is permissable, perhaps even
> justified.
If it doesn't hurt anyone, and all the parties to the party benefit
and consider the entire activity to be benign and harmless, then who
needs to "permit" or "justify" it? You? Why do *you* need to do that?
> Keep in mind that "themfolks" are the ones that could give a %$#@! when
> a biker gets killed, when *their* elected officials institute further
> draconian legislation (helmet laws, gun controls, etc.), the ones that don't
> respect our rights on the roads because we do not respect theirs all "the
> rest of the time..."
Ironically, these particular townsfolk probably are in the minority that
don't happen to fit the stereotype you describe. They've developed a
friendly long-term mutually-beneficial relationship with a group of
motorcyclists, and aren't as burdened with MC-ignorance as is the general
population because of it.
> Need I continue?
If such a need exists, it surely must come from within.
> So continue to wear your stigma as a badge, but the next time you are
> whining about "them" and the effect of their values on yours, remember
> that it was probably the behavior of self-righteous wusses like myself
> that kept "them" at bay for this long.
Well, you got the "self-righteous wusses" part right, anyway.
Chuck Rogers
[email protected]
"You might have heard I run with a dangerous crowd,
We ain't too pretty, we ain't too proud,
We might be laughin' a bit too loud,
Ah, but that never hurt no one, <--------
You know that only the good die young"
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