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From: [email protected] (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Wings will win
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 47

In article  [email protected] (Randy A. Graca) writes:
>
>It's true that Vancouver did not make the playoffs for many a year before 
>Quinn came, but in those years the Smythe Division was a lot--I mean *a lot*--
>tougher division than the Norris, also known as the "Snorris", division.
>Vancouver had to play Edmonton and Calgary, both very legitimate Stanley
>Cup contenders, eight times a year, while Detroit got to play such 
>powerhouses as Toronto and Minnesota.  Now, Edmonton is hardly even a force
>in the league, and the Smythe even has the mighty San Jose sharks, while

Them thar's fighting words...hardly a force...geez...miss the playoffs
once in 15 years, and even after making the final four 3 times in the
last five years, and everyone thinks its doomsville.

>over this same period of time in which Vancouver was improving, so was 
>everybody in the Norris (except St. Louis).  Detroit had to improve just
>to keep up with the competition in their division.  They had to improve *a
>lot* to get better than their competition in the Norris.
>
>Bryan Murray inherited a team with very little talent.  For really good
>players, they had Yzerman, Burr, and Probert, and that was about it.  (And
>no doubt some will dispute whether Burr and Probert were that good). The
>rest were either very green rookies or washed up veterans.  The only reason
>they got as far as they did in the years before Murray came was due to the
>coaching of Demers, who, at least at first, got every last ounce of effort
>possible out of his team.  Then, even his coaching began to degrade.
>

Fedorov, Primeau, Kozlov, Lidstrom, Sillinger, Konstantinov, Drake,
Kennedy, Racine, and Cheveldae were already in the pipeline due to
Devellano...Murray inherited these guys...in addition to Yzerman,
Probert, Carson, Chiasson, etc.

>There are a number of reasons why Detroit wasn't in as bad a shape standings
>wise when Murray took over as Vanc. was when Quinn took over, some of which
>I outlined above, but Murray did not have any better personnel to work with
>at the outset than did Quinn, with the exception of Yzerman.  And one player
>cannot alone make a team into a Stanley Cup contender, as I'm sure everyone
>reading this will agree.  
>

No...Quinn had far less...Murray took over Detroit at a time to 
take advantage of all of Devellano's good drafting...if Devellano
had not given in to Demers request to make the Oates trade, he might
still be GM.

Gerald